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Why US government could not have stopped the Koran bonfire

Seeded on Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:16 PM EDT
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The United States stands apart from many other Western democracies in priding itself on a near absolute commitment to allowing freedom of speech.

It is enshrined in the First Amendment to the US constitution, alongside the right to free exercise of religion.

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thedoctori

Doi... Even the BBC understands. We 'Merikans can protest if we want, and if some insane radicals are insecure about their own beliefs, they go to H-e-double-toothpicks...

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Reply#1 - Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:18 PM EDT
backroads

Yep, but Barack and his administration certainly tried to step on that amendment.

  • 1 vote
Reply#2 - Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:30 PM EDT
kaviaq

How? By expressing the opinion that the group SHOULDN'T do it?? They didn't order them not to or try to stop them. They have freedom of speech too you know.

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#2.1 - Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:15 PM EDT
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VerbalBarb

Yep, but Barack and his administration certainly tried to step on that amendment.

No they didn't. Remember, they ARE American citizens and they, also, have a right to free speech. People saying they don't think something is a good idea is NOT trying to step on the amendment.

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Reply#3 - Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:18 PM EDT
backroads

Yes, they did. Think about who and how many tried to stifle the character. What's the matter? Can Barack do no wrong?

    Reply#4 - Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:42 PM EDT
    kaviaq

    He certainly CAN do wrong, he just didn't do what you are accusing him of.

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    #4.1 - Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:30 PM EDT
    VerbalBarb

    Yes, they did. Think about who and how many tried to stifle the character. What's the matter? Can Barack do no wrong?

    If they had sent troops in to stop him they would have been stifling his free speech. If they had sent law enforcement in to stop him they would have been stifling his free speech. If they had threatened to sue him, they would have been stifling his free speech. Using their right of free speech to say what he was doing was not a good idea didn't stifle his free speech.

    "The matter" is that I use rationality and common sense to determine whether or not someone is stretching things in order to fuel their phony outrage. People whining that members of the government speaking out somehow stifles someone else's free speech are stretching things in order to fuel phony outrage.

    Can Barack do no wrong? I'm sure he can do wrong just like everyone else. But, in this case he did nothing wrong. Nothing in the first amendment says a President can't speak his mind, or that members of his administration can't speak their minds and say they wish a citizen wouldn't do something or that what he's going to do could have drastic repercussions. They don't get muzzled when they go into office.

    • 1 vote
    #4.2 - Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:33 PM EDT
    backroads

    No, but Barack clearly has an affinity for stepping into things, doesn't he? This one will take a whopper of a beer summit, won't it?

      #4.3 - Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:18 PM EDT
      kaviaq

      No, but Barack clearly has an affinity for stepping into things, doesn't he?

      No. You have a skewed view of things. You hate him and therefore always see him in the worst light. I can understand t a degree, I couldn't stand anything Bush did during his second term, including breath. But I didn't dislike him until he had repeatedly screwed up during his first term. Most of the people who hate Obama hated him on sight, and were calling for his impeachment before he took office. It isn't fair and has nothing to do with him. It is YOUR issue....not his.

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      #4.4 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:43 AM EDT
      backroads

      Sorry, but Barack has that skewed viewpoint and it simply isn't working. Surely, you're not going to argue that what we have is successful? Why reveal you hated Dubya to death (including breathe)? I'll have to take your word for when you reached that point.

        #4.5 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:36 AM EDT
        kaviaq

        Sorry, but Barack has that skewed viewpoint and it simply isn't working. Surely, you're not going to argue that what we have is successful?

        I think he's doing fine. I don't agree with eeverything he's doing, but I didn't expect to. He's to moderate on some stuff and not tough enough on other stuff (I'd have pulled the troops out the day I got into office). But the odds of an elected official doing everything MY way are too small to worry about. I have no problem with his work so far and will vote for him again.

        I'll have to take your word for when you reached that point.

        I guess you will. I was living in England during that election and couldn't decide which idiot to vote for (decided not to bother). I didn't have any opinion about him or Gore except that Gore kept changing personalities every time i saw him on TV and Bush always seemed to be smirking. But I was busy with grad school and not paying much attention.

          #4.6 - Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:31 AM EDT
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