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Is Iraq Ready to Lose an American Military Presence?

Mon Oct 4, 2010 11:31 PM EDT
iraq, politics, obama, military-tactics, molinari, urban-low-intensity-conflict, urban-lic, palm-grove
By thedoctori
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A seemingly farcical and losing battle by American-backed Iraqi forces raises some serious questions about the future of the fledgling Middle East democracy (which today we find has the 2nd largest oil reserves on Earth).

1) Has President Obama's announcement that the, "American combat mission in Iraq has ended. Operation Iraqi Freedom is over," scared the heck of out Iraqi citizens and emboldened Islamist enemies of democracy? After all, "...nearly 60 percent [of Iraqis] feel it is the wrong time for U.S. soldiers to leave..." 2) Has living under the dictatorship of Saddam created a sense of sheepishness in Iraqis -- a lack of venturousness, innovation, initiative...? 3) Is the average Iraqi military recruit sheepish? 4) Why are some of Iraq's Sunnis and Shi'ites very un-sheepish about killing each other? 5) Do American military strategists really understand the complexities of "Urban Low-Intensity Conflict (Urban-LIC) warfare?" Unfortunately, it's most likely all of the above. Consider the details of the recent failed military venture:

... Lt. Col. Bob Molinari of the 25th Infantry Division based in Hawaii says the fight in the eastern Iraqi province of Diyala, now being called the Battle of the Palm Grove, involved hundreds of Iraqi soldiers, U.S. ground troops and American fighter planes dropping two 500-pound bombs -- all to combat just a handful of insurgents. And in the end, the enemy got away. ...

Molinari says Iraqi commanders from a total of seven different units showed up at the scene. Even the minister of defense was there. Molinari says too many commanders meant no coherent plan of action.

Iraqi soldiers were sent into the grove, in single file, each headed by an officer, Molinari says. The insurgent snipers would simply take aim at the officer who was leading each column.

"It was a matter of, as soon as the officers went down, the [Iraqi soldiers] went to ground. They didn't know what to do next," Molinari says.

The Iraqi soldiers fled from the palm grove and requested American firepower, Molinari says. So the Americans employed bombs, mortars, grenades and special forces. But the enemy only hid in drainage ditches, waited, then came out again, shooting. ...

The only constant in this reality is change. In general answer to the questions I've posed: Best we keep on our toes and concentrate on adaptiveness. In the specific, we need to: 1) Maintain a significant military presence in Iraq much longer than another year; 2) encourage our warfare strategists to get out of a Cold War/massive battles mindset and into a Urban Low-Intensity Conflict (Urban-LIC) mindset; and finally, 3) elect a president and congress willing to do what needs to be done -- un-sheepishly.

Endnotes

"Iraq Raises Oil Reserves Estimates 25 Percent," http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/10/04/130323309/iraq-says-it-has-more-oil-than-thought-143-billion-barrels

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Fla Pat

It occurs to me that these folks have been fighting and killing each other since the dawn of history. Why anyone felt we could change that is beyond me. We have played all sides against each other forever and nothing changes except greater loss of American tax payer's money and American service men and women's lives.

We need to be totally independent from mid east oil, but big oil & big business seems to shape policy to prevent that from ever happening.

Until we are free from our addiction on their oil you can play all the war games you want, try all the various strategies you like, but nothing will ever change.

    Reply#1 - Tue Oct 5, 2010 1:02 AM EDT
    Luther28

    I concur with your assessment of the situation. Until we as Americans come to the realization that our brand of Democracy does not work for everyone, many cultures differ from ours and we stop fighting wars for the corporate interests, we will continue to flounder on the world stage. We have enough mischief afoot right here at home to contend with, once we have cured our own ills, perhaps then we can venture out into the big bad world.

      #1.1 - Tue Oct 5, 2010 7:13 AM EDT
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      backroads

      I listened to an account of this yesterday. Three days of fighting, five Iraqi fatalities, a number of casualities, and the Iraqis retreated. They hadn't a clue.

        Reply#2 - Tue Oct 5, 2010 8:59 AM EDT
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